Kasey Osman Insurance

SDR Talk Path Companion

Outbound · Discovery · Live Transfer

Two spines

Which spine you run depends on one thing: do we already have this household? If we do, you open with the mini-review and the cross falls out of it naturally. If we don't, there's no file to review, so you state the reason for the call instead. Never do both — a mini-review on a stranger sounds false, and a "reason for my call" to your own client sounds like a telemarketer.

SPINE A  ·  existing client

P1–P6, P8, P10. They're already ours.

BEAT 1
Identify
Name, agency, "nothing's wrong."
BEAT 2
Mini-review
Thank them for their years, confirm the file.
BEAT 3
Assumptive cross
"While I was looking over everything, I noticed…"
BEAT 4
Gap statement
Why it matters, here, for them.
BEAT 5
Transfer ask
Hand off by name. Assume the yes.
SPINE B  ·  not a client

P7 and P9. Cold, internet lead, requote, winback.

BEAT 1
Identify
Name, agency, permission to continue.
BEAT 2
Reason for call
Why you're calling them, specifically.
BEAT 3
One question
One. Not three. Then listen.
BEAT 4
Gap statement
Why it matters, here, for them.
BEAT 5
Transfer ask
Hand off by name. Assume the yes.

Beat 3 — be assumptive

The cross is a statement, not a request. You are not asking whether they'd like you to look. You noticed something, and you're moving.

"You know, while I was looking over everything, I noticed we don't have your auto with us. Let's go ahead and take a look at that and see if we can help. What vehicles do you drive?"

Three things are doing work there. "While I was looking over everything" ties the cross to the review you just did, so it lands as service rather than a pitch. "Let's go ahead" assumes the yes. And it ends on a question they can answer without deciding anything — naming their cars costs them nothing, and once they've answered, the conversation is already underway. Compare that to "would you like a quote on your auto?", which invites a no and usually gets one.

Beat 2 — the mini-review

Spine A only. This is what earns you the right to the rest of the call. You're not opening with a pitch, you're opening with service: thank them for their years, confirm what we hold, update it live. Thirty to sixty seconds.

ConfirmWhy it earns its place
Mailing / garaging addressA new address is a property conversation you would otherwise never have found.
Best phone numberA new area code usually means they moved. Ask where from.
Email addressBad email is why renewal notices get missed and clients get surprised.
Employer or occupationJob changes move the commute, the mileage, and sometimes the discount.
Who is in the householdA new name is a new driver. A new driver is an auto call and a liability call.

Four rules. Thank them by name and by number of years first — it's the cheapest goodwill you'll ever buy. Read it as a conversation, not a form. Never ask for date of birth, social security number, driver's licence number, or payment details on a review call — if it's needed, the licensed agent asks. And update it in IX on the call, not after.

Six questions paint a picture

When you have room to go deeper than the five fields above — a renewal review, a long-tenured household, anyone who's happy to talk — these are the questions that surface the cross before you've asked for anything.

Every one of these is a cross-sell trigger in disguise. Marital status changes the household and the discount. A job change moves the commute and the mileage. A business means commercial. A child entering means a new driver in a few years and a life conversation now; a child exiting means a policy that no longer matches. And question six is the one that finds what nobody thought to mention.

You are not the one who answers this

You are not licensed to quote and you do not defend rates. Your only legal move on an objection is to turn it into a reason to talk to an agent. Every response below does exactly one thing: it buys the transfer.

Holding the line

When the agent is a few minutes out, dead air loses the transfer. Instead of parking them on hold, keep talking and gather what the agent is going to ask for anyway. Done right this makes the handoff shorter, not longer — the agent picks up already knowing the household.

Frame it as saving them time, never as a stall: "While [Agent] wraps up, let me grab a few things so you're not repeating yourself when I hand you over."

What you may and may not ask

You are unlicensed. Intake is fine; anything that looks like underwriting or account access is not.

TierWhatRule
Always fineVehicles, drivers by name and relationship, property details, roof age, current carrier, renewal date, claims and violations in general terms.Ask freely. This is the bulk of every bank below.
Check firstDates of birth, driver's licence numbers, VINs.Agencies differ on whether an unlicensed seat collects these. Do not ask until the Sales Lead confirms KOI's position.
NeverSocial security number, payment card or bank details, health or medical information.The licensed agent handles these on their own call. There is no exception.

Six rules for the hold

Always capture, whatever the path

These three feed the IX reporting directly. Get them even if the transfer falls through.

Current carrier
Who they are with now, on the line we are crossing into.
Renewal date
The single most useful field for working the household later.
Decline reason
If they say no, capture why in their words, not yours.

The handoff is the job

The fifteen seconds between "hold on one second" and you dropping off the line is the difference between a credited transfer and a wasted dial. Never say the word transfer to a client — it sounds like a phone tree. Say let me put you with.

Route by line of business

Wrong seat means the call gets bounced and the client repeats themselves. That is a dead transfer.

Two people carry more than one seat. One agent takes both property and auto, and another takes both property and commercial building — so if either is free, they can often catch a call the rest of the row can't. Work down the row before you give up and book an appointment.

Slack handoff builder

Build the line while the client is on hold, then copy it straight into the handoff channel so every available agent sees it at once. Whoever claims it is who you introduce — you say their name and how long the client has when you make the live transfer.

Your handoff line will build here as you type.

Nothing in the channel that you wouldn't want the client reading over your shoulder. No rate, no coverage claim, no account numbers.

Pre-transfer checklist

Run this every time. Tap to tick, reset between calls.

No agent available

Two options, depending on how far out the agent is. Minutes away — hold the line and work the Filler Bank. Longer than that — book a specific day and time, log it, and move on. What you never do is park the client on hold hunting for someone.

"[He's/She's] with a client right now and I don't want to leave you holding. Are you better in the morning or the afternoon? … Perfect — I'm putting you down for Thursday at 10:15 and [he'll/she'll] call you at this number."

An appointment set protects the lead but it does not count as a transfer on your quad. Log it in IX the same day with the agent's name and the booked time.

Voicemail, text, and the follow-up cadence

Thirty seconds, no pitch, curiosity only. You are not trying to sell on a voicemail — you are trying to earn a callback. Never leave a number, a rate, or the word "quote" on a message.

Attempt cadence

Two live attempts and a message before you disposition. Vary the time of day — the same 2pm dial three days running is three dials wasted.

AttemptWhenAction
1Day 1, morning blockDial. No answer → voicemail #1. Say you'll try again Thursday.
2Day 3, afternoon blockDial. Different time of day. No answer → no message.
3Day 5Dial. No answer → voicemail #2 (the close-the-loop message).
4Day 10–14One more dial, then disposition and recycle to the long-term list.

Before any text message: confirm the household's contact-consent status in IX and follow KOI Data Policy v1.5. Texting a client who has not opted in is a compliance issue, not a judgement call.

One rule sits above the schedule

A live inbound always beats the block. If a call-in, a web lead, or a transfer request lands at 10am and your sheet says you're on campaign work until one, you drop the campaign and call it. Speed to lead is measured in minutes, not in blocks. The schedule below is what you do when nothing is on fire — it is a default, never a defence.

Your calling window

The office runs 8:30am – 5:30pm EST, Monday to Friday. Your dialling window is 9:00am – 5:30pm. Nothing goes out before nine or after half five — not a dial, not a text.

Use 8:30 to 9:00 to pull and prep the list you're about to work. That half hour is free: you can't dial in it anyway, and if you spend it prepping, nine o'clock arrives and you're already calling instead of still searching.

Two power hours

Your two best contact windows. Keep them clear of meetings, admin, and data entry where you can — and if the Sales Lead needs you on something else, that comes first. Move the block rather than losing it.

10:00 – 11:30am
People are at their desks and past the morning scramble. Best window for working households before the day runs away from them.
4:00 – 5:30pm
People are home, back from the school run, and winding down. Strongest window of the day for reaching a working household — and it runs right up to close.

Do your admin at 1pm, not at the end of the day. Dispositioning, CRM entry, and list prep belong in the post-lunch dead zone when nobody answers anyway. The last ninety minutes are prime calling time — spending them on data entry because it feels like winding down is the most common way a good SDR quietly underperforms.

A week that works

A starting shape, not a straitjacket. Once you have four weeks of your own connect data, rebuild it around what actually answers.

DayMorningAfternoonPower hour
MondayWeekend inbound and web leads first — they are already cold by nowAdmin, then RenewalsRenewals (P10)
TuesdayOTH campaign work (P1, P2)Admin, then Source listsOTH campaign (P1, P2)
WednesdayRenewals (P10)Admin, then requotesRequotes (P9)
ThursdayOTH campaign work (P1, P2)Admin, then Source listsOTH campaign (P1, P2)
FridayCallbacks and anyone who asked for a timeBook next week, then recycle listAppointment-setting for Monday

Tuesday through Thursday are your contact days — that is where the campaign volume belongs. Monday morning is the worst cold window of the week, so it goes to inbound that is already warm. Friday afternoon is poor for cold but fine for warm, which is why it is callbacks and booking rather than fresh dials.

Every block needs four things

If you cannot answer all four before the block starts, you are not ready to dial.

1. Which list
One named campaign or source, not "leads". Pull it before the block, not during it.
2. Which path
P1 through P10. Knowing the path before you dial is what stops you improvising badly.
3. A dial target
A number for this block, not for the day. Forty in a ninety-minute block is a real target.
4. What done looks like
List worked to the end, or the clock ran out and you noted where you stopped.

Your list inventory

Everything available to you, and which path each one runs. Tap to tick off as you work through a block.

Your first two weeks look different

Do not try to run five list types in week one.

How you are graded

You are credited on live transfers. That is the one outcome your bonus is built on — not items sold, and not the policies that get written off the back of your calls. Everything else on this page is logged so the agency can see what your calls actually produce, but it is not what you are paid on. Nothing is credited at all unless it is dispositioned in IX the same day.

The SDR quad

Same framework the agents run, measured on the activity that drives transfers. Hit two of the four every day once you are past your first week.

150
Outbound dials
2.5
Hours talk time
5
Live transfers
2
Crosses bound

All four are measured. Only live transfers carry credit — the other three tell you and the Sales Lead whether the transfers are going to show up.

What counts and what doesn't

OutcomeCreditWhy
Live transferCreditedThe one outcome you are paid on. Client on the phone, gap identified, agent accepted the handoff live.
Cross boundLoggedTracked at household level so the agency can see what your transfers turn into. It is not your credit — the writing agent owns the sale.
Appointment setLoggedProtects the lead and is tracked separately. It is not a transfer.
Blind transferLoggedRecorded, but it earns you nothing. Stay on the line, introduce the client, and confirm the agent picked up before you drop.
Not dispositioned same dayZeroIf it isn't logged in IX, it didn't happen.
Flood quote aloneZeroValuable conversation, but it does not satisfy the cross-sell requirement.
Wrong seatZeroProperty to a Homie, auto to a Hunter, commercial to a Commercial agent.

End-of-call, every call

Three things that will make or break your first ninety days

HabitWhat it looks like
Ask one question, then stopNew SDRs stack three questions and answer them themselves. Ask the one question and hold the silence. The pause is where the information comes from.
Never quote, never guessThe second you throw out a number you can't stand behind, you have set the agent up to lose. "That's exactly why I'm handing you off" is always the better answer.
Disposition before the next dialNot at lunch, not at the end of the day. The call is not finished until IX says it is.

Kasey Osman Insurance — internal sales training reference for the SDR seat. Language is a starting frame, not a mandated script; adapt to the client in front of you and stay inside carrier, state, and KOI compliance requirements at all times. Nothing here is a coverage representation or a rate quote. Confirm contact-consent status before any outbound text. Questions or corrections go to the Sales Lead.